Einstein time travel theory?

topic posted Tue, August 15, 2006 - 10:37 AM by  Yul
In a recent installment of the comic strip "Non Sequitor", they claimed that Einstein asserted that time travel to the past is possible while time travel to future is not. Something about the future not existing yet. But according my knowledge of Einstein's theories, there is no mention of time travel (Unless you count time dilation. But of course that's not time travel in the sense that you can return to the time of your origin.) So the question of the moment is, what was up with that stuff
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    Re: Einstein time travel theory?

    Fri, August 18, 2006 - 12:25 AM
    from what little I know iEinstein's theory is best construed
    under a static view of time. there is no one center or absolute
    time frame and consequentialy time has no particular direction
    except in our own epistimic view. It is used to count location
    relative to the earth's rotation around the sun for example. Since
    time frames go "forward" and "backward" it's possible under some
    special device like a time machine or wormholes to travel into
    the future or back in time. Wherever these time frames exist, that is,
    all that exists in that period, people, things, objects, space, etc, has no
    bearing on existence itself. It's getting ahead or behind "us" that's the problem.
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    Fri, September 15, 2006 - 4:13 PM
    I had a science teacher in High School that claimed that just the OPPOSITE of that is true.He said that if you travel through a "wormhole"in space,you can travel into the Future,but onese you get there,you can never go back to youre own time because Time cannot flow backwards.Something to do with the"Grandfather Parodox"thing.
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      Fri, September 15, 2006 - 8:08 PM
      I believe some scientist believe that time travel is future oriented, called the "arrow of time", and others think traveling back in time is possible.

      I think much of it has to do with whether one is committed to a temporal or atemporal view of time.

      I think the "Grandfather Paradox" is an off shoot of Betrand Russell's "Hilberts Hotel" paradox, which essentially illustrates how an actual infinity would result in "real life" absurdities if an actual infinity traversed time as we understand it. But I could be wrong. I know the "Grandfather Paradox" was floating around atleast in the 1970's with philosophers of time.
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        Tue, October 17, 2006 - 8:27 AM
        In order to achieve time travel in this material reality we need a vessel and a power source to overcome the curvature of space. It seems like that is a highly improbable we can devise such a thing. But what about this, I feel that visualization is a form of time travel. Thoughts are things they are made of energy. When we focus that energy in the future i.e. a new car its called creative visualization. We go into the future see ourselves with the car and then return an wait for the material world to catch up. There is less conscious energy influencing that reality so with sustained focus we can create e or future this way. We could theoretically change the past this way but it would take focused thought of all living beings at once to change an agreed upon "reality
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          Tue, October 17, 2006 - 1:54 PM
          That's true. Sometimes i visualize the Great Pumpkin around this time each year or rainbow colored unicorns when I get nostalgic about old cartoons and they pop up out of nowhere. It's really great!
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            Tue, October 17, 2006 - 8:25 PM
            I think we should try to travel back in time to figure out what Einstein's last words were.
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              Sun, October 22, 2006 - 4:09 PM
              If I could travel back in time, I would go back to 1969 and attend the origanal Woodstock Festival. Than I would visit the exact time that they first landed on the Moon and watch it on Television. Then I would travel to July 4,1976 and be part of the Bicentenial Celebration. If I could travel through time and space, than I would visit London in the year 1895 as well. If I could travel into the Future, I would visit the year Three Thousand And Forty Seven and bring a camera with me.
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            Sun, October 22, 2006 - 11:07 PM
            If I could travel back in time, I would have never answered the question in this blog so serious and instead bask in feigned ignorance, apparently, being an idiot is cool these days. Hell lets all drop a bunch of acid and spend the rest of our lives pretending to know something!
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              Thu, October 26, 2006 - 7:32 PM
              Godel thinks we can evade the curvature of space problem youre talking about.
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                Thu, October 26, 2006 - 8:04 PM
                If the universe is actually spinning.
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                  Fri, October 27, 2006 - 7:10 PM
                  right. don't you think that's a good presumption. Or do you believe in a static universe?
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                    Fri, October 27, 2006 - 7:38 PM
                    It makes as much sense as about anything else. BUT, I'll never be able to step outside and confirm it.
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                      Mon, October 30, 2006 - 6:50 PM
                      Okay.
                      If a static universe, then, is the preferred model, and I'm starting to lean on it but know more about a dynamic model, how do you understand string theory? Would the matrix geometry in string theory have more to do with the orbits of the sub-atomic particles and not the motion of the universe in general in a static model? I'm conceptualizing that motion would be perceptual rather than actual, and that the matrix is connecting the time frames in gtr with quantum mechanics along the planes that we as humans only percieve. IOW, its possible that the matrix configuration can map out planes that we don't have access to because of our physical and technological limitations. This may be a far stretch but if you have any other info. that can bare insight on how a static theory works with string theory, that would be greatly appreciated.
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                        Wed, November 1, 2006 - 8:37 PM
                        I'm not sure I can provide any useful insight into the matter. I always go back to Einstein's original assertion that time is the 4th dimension. From a purely philosophical point of view, I believe a 2 dimensional entity would have a hard time conceiving of a 3d entity. Similarly, we as 3d entities, don't have the ability to readily move among a dimension that is so hard to really grasp.
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                          Sun, November 5, 2006 - 6:20 PM
                          Intuitively, my conjecture would be that in a static theory of time, the universe is rotating on a "local" subatomic level rather than on a "macro" level where motion is taken to mean everywhere in space. A static theory of time is a verbal conundrum that can be misleading on the surface. It really is difficult to conceptualize as you said. (I just wanted to reiterate my previous comment with more clarity and after some thought)
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                            Sun, November 5, 2006 - 7:18 PM
                            I would be curious to see the "engine" which allows FTL travel. I'm wondering if such thing would be essential to time travel, or if perhaps something can be accomplished with a static endeavor.

                            BTW, Thank you, Eric!
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